The Interviews: biographies of the people interviewed in the documentary film Song of the Sun

We would like to thank and acknowledge the people who graciously agreed to be interviewed for this film. is enhanced by their contributions and their knowledge and wisdom is greatly appreciated. Here are their stories.

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David AbramDavid Abram, Ph.D., is an ecologist, anthropologist, and philosopher who lectures and teaches widely around the world.

He is author of Becoming Animal: An Earthly Cosmology (Pantheon, 2010), and The Spell of the Sensuous: Perception and Language in a More-than-Human World (Vintage, 1997).

An accomplished sleight-of-hand magician who has lived and traded magic with indigenous sorcerers in Indonesia, Nepal, and the Americas, David has received numerous honors, including a Lannan Literary Award for Nonfiction as well as fellowships from the Rockeller and Watson Foundations.

As Creative Director of the Alliance for Wild Ethics (AWE), his essays on the cultural causes and consequences of environmental disarray have appeared in numerous magazines and journals, as well as in many anthologies in a host of disciplines. His work engages the ecological depths of the imagination, exploring the ways in which sensory perception, poetics, and wonder inform our relation with the animate earth. He lives with his wife and two young children in northern New Mexico.

A new cycle of creativity emerged for me in recent years as I picked up my sculpting tools and began to push clay. That action Faye Bates, artistopened space for a long-held dream to blossom. Today, after a 30-year career in corporate training, I work in bronze, translating inspiration from my heart into sculpted form.

It’s remarkable to consider the shifts, both inward and outward, that made this change possible. Currently I am sculpting a series of twelve divine feminine energies, The Counsel of Twelve. These energies are coming forth to assist our spiritual evolution. Each of them connects with us to enliven, strengthen and clarify a particular aspect of our nature. The art I create connects at a deep soul level. It is coming through to support us in a powerful, light-filled way to reclaim our authentic self and to express that more fully in our lives.

Our planet is in the midst of a huge evolutionary shift, as are we. The art I create feels to be in direct support of this process, specifically showing us the brilliant gifts of our true God-created nature. This knowing and accepting of our true nature will lift us and the planet to express at a higher level of vibration. The old structures that no longer serve us are breaking and dissolving. Space is being created for a new way of being and that new way of being is showing up in a myriad of ways. My art feels to be one of those ways, showing us our true nature. If we allow it, the energetic power of transformation held in this artwork will assist in “lifting the veil” of duality and shift us into Oneness. Email Faye

Ann CarrollI used to think of ‘my life’ as chapters, but looking back it seems more like a rope of many interwoven, continuing strands.

One strand, in the full flower of youth, was when I thought I could think my way to the ‘truth’ and did a doctorate in Munich, Germany on Western Metaphysics and its unfolding in Martin Heidegger. This ongoing quest would take me down many avenues in Eastern philosophy; a lifelong practice of meditation; yielding to the great wisdom of the body; and a deepened study and practice of Qigong and Tai Chi.

However, as the several coiled youthful strands themselves are interwoven one with the other —concept to conception— so I too, having turned down the awesome gift once for the intoxication of the mind, had grown ready to attempt that great leap of faith into motherhood: that overwhelming tidal wave of love connecting me somehow to all of life and to the very taproot of my own life. What an immense, joyous, heart-breaking, primordial strand that is …. I think I can truly say that, four children and six grandchildren later. Winding down the center of that strand, attempting to hold its multiple twists and turns into a cohesive unity is marriage --- to my mind, the greatest of spiritual disciplines, and potentially one of the greatest gifts.

But two strands do not a rope make --- bringing me to the third strand, which is my own imaginings and image-making. From my gentle father, himself almost blind and a furniture maker, I learned the love of wood and craftsmanship, exploring my inner world and grounding those metaphysical questions in great chunks of wood —mahogany and rosewood, sometimes whole trees, rock, fabric, plaster. It was there I could evolve the great archetypal vessels of my own spiritual longing; there I could reach back to the aboriginal sacred core of the Great Mother, deep down inside myself, and balancing the sometimes airborne propulsion of my mind.

Yes, I know what a ‘Bio’ is supposed to be, and there were many hours of teaching philosophy, art history, Tai Chi, woven in there but many more hours preparing meals --- not to mention all the gardens. To what strand does the passion for gardening belong, that came unbidden with my mother’s love for little children and flowers?

And, finally, the central strand like some metaphysical DNA, winding invisibly right down the middle: that which is unutterably beyond words, mysteriously weaving it all together with such an awesome intricacy that ultimately it poses both at the beginning and the end and throughout, the same unanswerable question: Who am I?

Amy Stacey CurtisSince the year 2000, Amy Stacey Curtis has been installing large-in-scope, interactive installation and new-media works in the vast mills of various Maine towns. Each solo-biennial exhibit is a 22-month process, each exhibit exploring a different theme while requiring audience to perpetuate its multiple installations. "The audience completes my creative process. Without participants my work is incomplete." The Maine Arts Commission's 2005 Individual Artist Fellow for Visual Art, Curtis has committed to this work to convey that we are a part of a whole, that everyone and everything is connected and affects. Curtis’s fifth of nine solo biennials, LIGHT, took place in October, 2008 throughout 26,000 square feet of Sanford, Maine's Millstone Place, once again re-animating one of Maine's unused spaces.

LIGHT comprised nine temporary large-scale installations, each an audience-activated experience. The event, once open to the public, was a contemplative interchange between artist, community, and environment, a tactile metaphor, conveying our effect on the whole and the whole upon us even if this impact or influence is momentary. Many of LIGHT's installations required participants' physical touch or effect while others functioned through active and purposeful perception. Audience was asked to manipulate, maintain, enter, detect, distinguish, recognize--challenged to examine light in new ways.

Curtis has been examining these concepts in the context of nine broad related themes--experience, movement, change, sound, light, time, space, matter, and memory--so that in the end, sometime in 2016, her exploration might have been thorough, the total of all biennials’ imagery a cohesive whole. Following each solo biennial, her work exists only through documentation, dialogue, connection, and memory.

Christine CorreaEver since I was old enough to conceptualize, I have wondered where and how does the sky end. Viewing the night sky was my territory to explore this experience. When I was about 40 the activity of doing art work was my way of dialoguing with the universe itself. Images from dreams or experiences of myself as a source of light were usually the starting point. Now at 60, I recognize there is inherent meaning and sacred symbolism within the very workings of nature. There is potential for communion with all that is within each moment, if we are open to learning the relationship we each have with the sun and the mystery of the light within, What is arising for me now is the sensation that I am part of the solar system. My consciousness is expanding into the dark matter of the universe, following a network of light which is carrying me to a place where our sun was born.

Peter DawkinsEducated at King Edward's High School, Birmingham, and St Catharine's College, Cambridge University, Peter is an author, lecturer, visionary, geomancer, Zoence consultant and teacher, and a Baconian and Shakespearean scholar. He is founder-director of both Zoence Academy and The Francis Bacon Research Trust. He is also one of the founders of Gatekeeper Trust, of which he is now an Elder.

Having practised as an architect for ten years in both England and Scotland, since 1978 Peter has devoted himself full-time to research and educational work in connection with the world’s wisdom traditions, mythology, sacred architecture and landscape. He teaches mostly through seminars, workshops and pilgrimages to sacred sites of the world.

Concerned especially with the harmonious relationship of humanity with both the spiritual and natural worlds, Peter’s pioneering researches have led directly to a developing art and science of ‘landscape temples’ and ‘geomantic pilgrimage’, and their association with the heavenly, angelic, spiritual or archetypal realms of existence. This, together with his knowledge and synthesis of the wisdom traditions, has been named ‘Zoence’.

Since the early 1970’s Peter has introduced many people of different nations to the concept and experience of both sacred landscape and townscape. His especial focus in this respect is on establishing and training groups to research and work with the landscape temples, as well as with themselves, in healing and life-enhancing ways. To help this, he has since the 1980’s been involved in the development and teaching of the Zoence Academy and Mystery School.

The Baconian work, which is likewise involved with knowledge of the landscape as well as history, philosophy, culture and consciousness, concerns one of the great doorways into the otherwise esoteric Western wisdom tradition. Shakespeare and the Rosicrucians are part of this story. Peter’s book, The Shakespeare Enigma, presents the extraordinary treasure trail that leads to (and is) this ‘doorway’, whilst its complementary book, Building Paradise, describes what the Baconian-Rosicrucian method and work actually is.

Besides seminars on Bacon, the Rosicrucians and the wisdom traditions, which he has been giving since 1979, Peter has given Wisdom of Shakespeare seminars and workshops for over twenty years, including at the Shakespeare Globe Theatre in London, and advises actors and directors. Complementing this is his on-going series of books on the Wisdom of Shakespeare in each Shakespeare play, in which five titles are so far published.

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Phillip DuranPhillip H. Duran, descendent of Ysleta del Sur Pueblo, or Tigua Indians (not enrolled), spent forty years combined at the University of Texas at El Paso and Washington State University, performing physics research, teaching courses in physics and mathematics, and working as a computer systems analyst and an industry-certified disaster recovery planner. He spent an additional five years at Northwest Indian College directing an academic degree program in tribal natural resources management and serving as dean of Science and Mathematics. He has Masters degrees in physics and computer science and nearly completed a Ph.D. in theoretical physics.

He is vice president of the board of directors of Hamaatsa, "a place arriving, coming into being now” in the Keresan Pueblo language), a Native tax-exempt organization assisting in the establishment of an eco-retreat center and indigenous learning model whose purpose is to promote spiritual wholeness and healing systems from traditional cultures and to revive indigenous life-ways and sustainable land stewardship principles for restoring our world. He is also on the editorial advisory board for a major reference work (encyclopedia) on sciences and religions being published by Springer.

Most of his recent papers and essays explore the relationships between the concepts of modern physics (quantum theory, relativity theory, string theory) and Indigenous worldviews. He is the author of a book, Bringing Back the Spirit, which is a message to the American conscience—Christian churches, society and government—as told through his own transformational experience.

He has written poetry and other works that have been published in at least fifteen journals, some of which have appeared in different languages, including French and Spanish. A collection of some of his poems was published in an anthology in Spain.

He currently resides in Rio Rancho, New Mexico as an independent author, lecturer, and consultant. For information on Hamaatsa, visit To read some of his essays and for contact information, visit

James Harrod, Ph.D. is a scholar specializing in the origins of art James Harrod and religion in evolution ( and has participated in rock art explorations in Europe, India, Israel, Kenya and Australia. He has published articles on spiritual symbolism in the Oldowan Early Paleolithic 2 million years ago, on the successive waves of tool and symbol innovation that spread Out-of-Africa. He has an article in press on chimpanzee spirituality.

He views this research as contributing to emergent visions of the spiritual in relation to earth, sun and cosmos as we and all species evolve in the current phase of globalization.

He has a psychotherapy practice in Portland, Maine, facilitates shamanic trance posture groups, and is a practitioner of nondual meditation traditions. He has taught seminars on archetypal psychology and the neuroscience of dreaming.

He has an M.A. in depth psychology counseling from Pacifica Graduate Institute, an M.A. in Religion (Philosophical Theology), and a Ph.D. in Religion (Comparative Mythology) from Syracuse University.

Criss JayCriss Jay is a freelance writer and pianist based in Santa Fe. An L. A. refugee, he found himself idling among New Mexico’s native ruins and has since devoted much of his writing to an older sense of place and identity in the Southwest. As a pianist, he often performs with other writers in collaborative improvisation. He also teaches piano from his studio in Eldorado where Bach shares the suburban ecology with coyote. Email Criss.


Ana MacArthurAna MacArthur has been making work with and about light since the late 70's and following an exploration of the physics of light, with a passion to understand its subtitles and transformative nature. MacArthur has exhibited internationally and throughout the USA, including exhibitions in New York City, Austria, England, Scotland, and the United Arab Emirates. She moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico and the Southwestern US over 20 years ago, drawn to the crystalline light of the dry desert and its vast spaces, which continue to feed her work

MacArthur was a key member of an international set of artists exploring electronic technologies around the Museum of Holography in New York City in the mid 80's. From 1988 - 2004 she co-founded and partnered in Aurorean, one of the few dichromate holography labs in the world, with developments that distinguished she and her partner as pioneers, including an early series of holograms for artist James Turrell. Her works utilizes dichromate holograms as optically intelligent elements, yet only as a part of a greater dialogue inclusive of multiple media and taking form in installations, sculpture, drawings, holograms, and wall works.

MacArthur has shared her work and knowledge of light, optics, and eco-literacy via teaching workshops to multiple age groups from middle school to university. Her recent format for eco-activism has been to inspire in youth a knowing of deep principles of ecology, and of the significance of the sun's radiation, woven via an artistic exploration.

Over the last three years Ana MacArthur has been occupied by an extensive project with the Amazon Rainforest of Brazil due to its rich equatorial light, and continues the work with photosynthetic investigations of the giant water lily.

Marjorie de Muynck is a musician, composer, recording artist, healing Marjorie de Muynck and her dogarts practitioner and educator, and a leading visionary in Sound Healing.

Marjorie is a Sounds True artist and since 1999 has been pioneering musical compositions in the key of Ohm: There’s No Place Like Ohm, Volumes 1 & 2, In the Key of Earth, and Vibrational Healing Music. In 1995 she co-developed the Acutonics® Sound Healing system and co-authored the textbook, There’s No Place Like Ohm, Sound Healing, Oriental Medicine and the Cosmic Mysteries. In 2003 she developed the Ohm Therapeutics® Sound Healing system and in 2008 authored the book Sound Healing: Vibrational Healing with Ohm Tuning Forks, a practical application manual with DVD.

Marjorie co-developed a healing treatment called Harmonic Attunement®, which incorporates the use of cosmically tuned symphonic gongs, tuning forks, didgeridoos, rattles, Tibetan bowls and bells. She also studied Huichol Shamanism with Brant Secunda for six years.

In 2000 Marjorie performed Native American flute on world renowned yoga teacher Ana forest’s DVD Strength and Spirit. A founding member in 1987 of the world touring Billy Tipton Memorial Saxophone Quartet, and a composer for the film Crocodile Tears, Marjorie has a rich background as a musician and composer. She currently performs with Santa Fe singer/songwriter Madi Sato.

Gerri Pattison is a Clinical Social Worker with a Gerri Pattisonholistic psychotherapy practice in Portland, Maine. She believes that all of human experience must be understood in its ecological, cultural, and spiritual context, and that our personal health and well being are inextricably and reciprocally interwoven with the health of the planet.


Madi Sato is a Japanese/American singer and songwriter, sound healer, poet, actress, and teacher. For over fifteen years, she has performed and recorded music - ranging from blues and jazz to sacred world music - both nationally and internationally.

Madi SatoMadi has created two full albums of her work: Soul in Love (2002) and the self-titled Madi Sato (2004). In 2003, she was named one of New Mexico’s Top 5 Exceptional Performers by the Santa Fean Magazine. She was also the recipient of the 2004 New Mexico Mic Award for “Best R&B song of the year” with her original composition, Lady Pearl. In 2005, she played a title role in the musical romantic comedy, Aucassin and Nicolette, at the El Museo Theatre in Santa Fe.

Madi has toured throughout the Southwest, as well as performed overseas in Japan and Australia. Additionally, she opened for celebrated artists such as Cassandra Wilson and Chris Calloway. Several recordings of her music are available at: Her self-titled CD, Madi Sato, was produced by Larry Mitchell, grammy-winning producer and guitarist.

Madi has spent the past 7 years learning and singing traditional Japanese Shigin and Nihon Minyo (folk songs) and collaborating with Japanese musicians of taiko drums, koto, bamboo and shakuhachi flute. These studies have led to continuing performances with renowned world music artists including Grammy award winning Japanese taiko drummer Koji Nakamura, Tibetan singer and activist, Yangjin Lamu, and legendary musician Paul Winter. She has created and performed the music for conferences presented by Richard Rohr, Franciscan priest and world renowned author. Since 2007 Madi has been studying with sound healing pioneer and singer, Silvia Nakkach. To learn more about Silvia Nakkach and her school for the Yoga of the Voice visit:

Madi is also an instructor of a devotional vocal meditation practice called Sound Journeys: Discovery of the Authentic Voice, a systematic method of sound healing that utilizes sacred music from around the globe to awaken the power of the voice. Madi lives and works in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

Bob Schrei is a Certified Advanced Rolfer in practice since 1986, a Bio-dynamic Cranial-Sacral practitioner, an artist and a former Zen teacher.

Bob Schrie & Donna Thomson

Donna Thomson is meditation teacher, intuitive and the author of The Vibrant Life: Simple Meditations to Use Your Energy Effectively (Sentient Publications 2006).

Bob and Donna are the originators of SourcePoint Therapy, an energetic healing system that has evolved since 1995 into a highly effective modality that Bob is teaching internationally. Based on simple principles of order, balance, harmony and flow, it is designed to allow practitioners of all kinds to integrate energetic healing into their healing work.

Residents of Santa Fe, New Mexico since 1981, they began building their off-the-grid house at the edge of the forest in 1996, and have been living in it ever since. It is still a work in progress.

Bob and Donna can be contacted at

Norma Tarango has a deep respect for the interconnectedness of all life, which has steered her endeavors towards the expression of unity between sky and earth.  Her lifelong passion for the planetary wisdom of the Sacred Feminine began in the tropics, and has remained her predominant quest.  Norma TarangoAs a result, Norma founded Women on the Waves, an international research and educational non-profit that esteems and supports the uncovering and exploration of hidden or little known women’s spiritual knowledge.  Originally established in Kauai, Hawaii, the 12 year old organization is currently based in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

Norma’s investigation of the myths and planetary sciences of the tropic world—a zone that receives the majority of the world’s sunlight---drew her into Hawaiian cultural astronomy, navigation and the nature of sacred time.  The lineage of the Navigator Poets offers extraordinary perceptions of living and voyaging in time and space that is very different from earth-rooted, land-based cultures.  Their fluid understandings reference an ancient living voice of our evolving solar system within our own bodies and lives.  Email Norma.

Sequoyah is a blood member of the Choctaw nation and a traveling Medicine man. He works in the Mountains of British Columbia as well as traveling all over the world holding healing ceremonies. Sequoyah Trueblood A blood member of the Choctaw nation, Sequoyah embodies the heart doctrine and elaborates the ancient teachings of the Mamos and native peoples.

He depicts the triune nature of the Creator, as being of the spirit of niawenhko' wa (great blessings or thankfulness); konnoronhkhwako' wa (the great love), and skennen' ko' wa (the great peace).

Sequoyah Trueblood Choctaw Nation, Oklahoma Sequoyah Trueblood was born in Stroud, Oklahoma. His father is Choctaw/Cherokee/Chickasaw, his mother German/English. Sequoyah grew up on a self-sustaining farm, learning to work the land to survive.

He spent many years in residential boarding school, which let him into the army at the age of seventeen. As a Green Beret he was part of the Special Forces Operational Detachment "A Team," and eventually became a major. He fluently speaks Thai, Korean, and Japanese. In the service he was a code breaker for military intelligence. In Southeast Asia he was involved with "Master," the development of intelligence technology.

Sequoyah is the father of five, grandfather of four, and great-grandfather of one. He lives on the Kahnawake reservation in Canada with Marilyn Kane, one of the originators of the Native Women's Association of Canada. Sequoyah has worked extensively with Indian youth wilderness programs, the unity regional youth program for substance abuse, and Cherokee Challenge in North Carolina. He is currently creating permaculture programs in Kahnawake, Akewasasne, and Cherokee. Sequoyah shares his teaching of global unity and compassion. His is truly a remarkable being who emanates light.